2025-11-04 00:00:00 +0000 - Written by
Minutes - Programming and Hacking Communities Meeting
Meeting Chair: Cheng Ning
Meeting Secretary: Isa Jafarov
Present: Mikael Vejdemo Johansson (MVJ), Jonathan Hanon (JH), OlgaKey (OK), Beam, Heather Roberts (HR), Cesar Herrera (CH), Jesse Dimino (JD), Cheng Ning (CN), Isa Jafarov (IJ), Dan Weiner (DW)
Absent: None
Meeting called to order at 3:06 PM
Proposal for agenda:
- Approving the agenda
- Approving the minutes of the last meeting
- Handle Pull Requests in order
- New Business
Seconded by: MVJ
Proposal passed unanimously
Item 1. Approving the Agenda
Voting is carried unanimously
Agenda approved for the meeting
Item 2. Approving the Minutes
JD proposed to add the missing adjournment time.
JH updated the minutes by adding the approximate adjournment time.
MVJ move to called the question
Seconded by: Beam
Vote
Aye - MVJ, JH, OK, Beam, HR, CH, JD, CN, IJ, DW
Nay - None
Result: The minutes were approved
Item 3. Handle Pull Requests in order
Pull request # 120
Motion by MVJ:
A player scores points computed by taking the Git hash of the first commit in the pull request, reading off the bottom byte, taking the square root, multiplying by 16, and multiplying the resulting number by the fraction of votes in favor of the rule change, rounded up to the nearest integer.
Seconded By: OK, Beam, JH
Beam proposed an amendment to include a formula in the description
Seconded by: OK
JH moved to call the question
Seconded by: DW
Vote
Aye - MVJ, OK, JD, HR, Beam, CN, DW, JH, CH, IJ
Nay - None
Result: Motion to call the question passed, vote on amendment
Vote
Aye - None
Nay - MVJ, JH, OK, Beam, HR, CH, JD, CN, IJ, DW
Result: Amendment failed
JH moved to call the question
Seconded by: CH
Vote
Aye - MVJ, JH, OK, Beam, HR, CH, JD, CN, IJ, DW
Nay - None
Result: Motion to call the question passed, vote on rule change proposal
Vote
Aye - MVJ, CN, DW, JD, IS, JH
Nay - OK, HR, CH, Beam
Result: Motion passed
CH calls point of order
Do hip-hip-hurray
Meeting did hip-hip-hurray
144 points to MVJ (239 total)
10 points to OK (10 total)
10 points to HR (10 total)
10 points to CH (20 total)
10 points to Beam (118 total)
Pull Request # 127
Motion by DW:
---
number: 427
mutability: mutable
---
every player will gain 50 points for each meeting attended and lose 25 points for each meeting missed starting from the creation of this rule forward. As long as you are here before the game of nomic starts you can get the points.
JH moved to call the question
Seconded by: JD
Vote
Aye - MVJ, JH, OK, Beam, HR, CH, JD, CN, IJ, DW
Nay - None
Result: Motion to call the question passed, vote on rule change proposal
Vote
Aye - HR, DW, IJ
Nay - MVJ, OK, Beam, CN, CH, JD, JH
Result: Motion failed
DW lost 10 points (-10 total)
Pull request # 128
Motion by MVJ:
---
number: 428
mutability: mutable
---
Whenever the word `integer` is used anywhere in these rules, this will refer to any realization of Peano's axioms.
OK moved to call the question
Seconded by: CH
Vote
Aye - JH, OK, Beam, HR, CH, JD, CN, IJ, DW
Nay - MVJ
Result: Motion to call the question passed, vote on rule change proposal
Vote
Aye - MVJ, OK
Nay - JH, Beam, HR, CH, JD, CN, IJ, DW
JH called for division
Vote
Aye - MVJ, OK
Nay - Beam, HR, CN, DW, CH, JD, IJ, JH
Result: Motion failed
MVJ lost 10 points (229 total)
Pull request # 129
Motion by JH:
---
number: 429
mutability: mutable
---
The state of affairs that constitutes winning may be altered from achieving n points to any other state of affairs. The magnitude of n and the means of earning points may be changed, and rules that establish a winner when play cannot continue may be enacted and (while they are mutable) be amended or repealed.
Vote
Aye - MVJ, JH, Beam, CN, OK, CH
Nay - IJ, JD, DW, HR
Result: Motion passed
Meeting did hip-hip-hurray
137 points to JH (279 total)
10 points to IJ (10 total)
10 points to JD (138 total)
10 points to DW (0 total)
10 points to HR (20 total)
Pull request # 130
Motion by DW:
---
number: 430
mutability: mutable
---
the winner has to get between 1000 and 10,000 points or between -100 and -200, any more or any less does not give the person a win.
JH moved to call the question
Aye - JH, OK, DW, CN, CH
Nay - MVJ, Beam, JD, HR, IJ
Result: Motion to call the question failed
MVJ proposed amendment
change "-200" to "-1000"
JH moved to call the question
Vote
Aye - MVJ, OK, Beam, DW, CN, CH, JD, JH, HR
Nay - IJ
Result: Motion to call the question passed, vote on amendment
Vote
Aye - MVJ, HR, DW, CN
Nay - JH, OK, Beam, CH, JD, IJ
Result: Amendment failed
MVJ proposed an amendment
change number 10000 to 2000
Seconded by: OK
OK moved to call the question
Vote
Aye - MVJ, HR, DW, CN, JH, OK, Beam, CH, JD, IJ
Nay - None
Result: Motion to call the question passed, vote on amendment
Vote
Aye: MVJ, OK, JD, HR
Nay: Beam, CN, DW, CH, JH, IJ
Result: Amendment failed
DW moved to call the question
Vote
Aye - MVJ, OK, JD, HR, Beam, CN, DW, JH, CH, IJ
Nay - None
Result: Motion to call the question passed, vote on rule change
Vote
Aye - MVJ, OK, HR, DW
Nay - JD, Beam, CN, JH, CH, IJ
DW lost 10 points (-10 total)
Result: Motion failed
DW moved to adjourn the meeting
Vote
Aye - MVJ, OK, JD, HR, Beam, CN, DW, JH, CH, IJ Nay - None
Result: The meeting adjourned at 4:02 PM